Guys, this is probably the most powerful discussion I have published so far on this website and my gratitude goes in the first place to the Saker and then to you for making this possible. We have entered indeed the most auspicious time in the history of this planet.
The problem is the other way around: I do not find a grain of truth in your heterodox point of view. Still, I thank you for taking the time to explain your point of view to me and I hope that we will stay in touch to compare notes on the evolving world around us.
Because as I said you have not even touched upon the new theory of the Universal Law. Check here one more time just as an overview but this time seriously as you are about to expose yourself as superficial and not trustworthy:
And why I cannot escape the impression (third eye) that you are rather barefoot on theology and the history of Christianity, which you avoid to comment?
With best regards
To publish a private exchange is, in my system of ethics, a major breach of trust which terminates our exchange.
there is nothing private in our discussion, this is a remarkable distortion of reality, except that you said more or less to me that I am delusional, but I have no problem with such accusations and do not exert any censorship in my publications as I am a champion of free discussion. Besides it is the policy of my website to publish email correspondence as I have no blog in order to protect my website from trolls.
The demand for privacy is a convenient excuse to avoid a serious discussion when one has no further arguments to throw into the dispute. It is the same as the infamous “political correctness” of the ruling cabal that use it as a pretext to ostracize all their critics.
Honestly, you disappoint me. I have expected more sovereignty and grandeur from you as a thinker and not such a “kleinbuergliches’ behaviour. Of course there is no need for us to communicate anymore as we have nothing more to say. My experiment has come to an end and I have unfortunately found out that humanity is still not ready for the true revelations if even some of its more critical thinkers are not ready yet.
Wish you all the best in your life
With best regards
PS: I forgot, you are welcome to make any official statement you desire regarding our alleged “insanity” and I will publish it on our website.
Why would I want to make any such statements? Our contacts have always been friendly and I want to keep them as such. Furthermore, I am not qualified (or interested) in judging you in any way. The fact that I don’t share your views does not mean that I can make any judgments about you. However, your indiscretion with our correspondence does disappoint me and this is why I wish to terminate this specific exchange . But I hope that we will remain in contact in the future.
if you have read our discussions on our website in the last almost five years you must have acknowledged that I and my group have raised our frequencies and energies so high and above this reality that everything we do is transpersonal and based on unconditional love that has nothing to do with the usual human concept of this most discredited feeling on this planet.
My positive feelings towards you and all second wave of ascension candidates are beyond description and not of this world and this holds true for the rest of the PAT group. I will publish today an energy report with their comments on our discussion and you will find for yourself how much understanding and compassion they have for you, even though they cannot close their eyes for the limitations of your social and religious conditioning.
You have just entered a new level of divine human communication which the Saker group has yet to learn and we all welcome you in the larger community of awakened souls and will be more than happy to help you. That is why we are still here on this planet although we ascended long time ago. But we also know that you need some more time and I am fully aware and sorry to have overwhelmed you too much with this exchange of gnostic information. On the other hand the time of radical change is very short now before the events will stipulate and one cannot stay idle anymore.
Let me assure you that if we, the PAT, are still on this earth, it is precisely to communicate with people like you and to help them open their minds to the bigger blissful reality that shapes their lives currently in a clandestine manner but will very soon manifest in full force.
This is what the bible describes as “Apocalypse”, in Greek “uncovering of the truth” for the End Time. And we should both agree that, if anything, Christianity is an advent religion of the End Time in the first place. And the End Time is now! The Second Coming of Christ has commenced. And as predicted in the Scriptures, the new prophets will not be recognized as such which is the same old story of human disbelief. We all know that and that is why it does not matter to us. We still love humanity.
With love and light
Incredible article you posted with the Saker. I had almost the exact same conversation today (not nearly as well spoken) with my father as we discussed things. I was trying to explain, and couldn’t, the exact holes you were asking the Saker and had to veer off into explaining who has been running the world more thoroughly once again. The synchronicity of mind is absolutely incredible. I wish I were so eloquent (although I enjoy my style).
I wanted to send you today’s quote from Clive Maund, a trader who has one of the best agnostic grasps on the big picture of anyone I know and one of the few I still read to keep a tight grasp on the markets.
“The outlook for the broad stockmarket is now DOWNRIGHT FRIGHTENING, a terminology we have never used on the site before (his site has been available since 2001). The Transports are plunging, and Junk Bonds finally crashed key support today on massive volume, yet the shop window major indices stay up, but not for much longer.”
The confirmations since the Pale Rider day are full steam ahead. The title of an article he included is called “One of the Great Buying Opportunities in Quality Mining Stocks”. Pale Rider gave the exact moment this was the case and he has confirmed this again. Anyone who reads your site will truly know what that means. It appears they may prop this thing through Options Expiration next week on the 18th to let a ton of PUT options expire worthless as the casino fleeces everyone again. The world may get a crashed market after that for Christmas.
This failure of Kinder Morgan today is astronomical. Six months ago they were discussing raising their dividend. Now their stock is down over 65% in four months and they cut their dividend 74% instead. Half of the world was duped into these MLP pipelines to generate yield. Retirees are toast. The cash crunch is hitting full steam. The banks are sitting on endless piles of this worthless debt and are praying no one goes to sell them because then they have to apply a value to them finally and admit bankruptcy.
Here’s Denver Dave’s comments on this one as it’s so big. This is so big no one is even noticing Glencore crashing to nearly new lows. I didn’t hear a word about the all the European banks crashing to new lows either. RBS is in freefall. Credit Suisse is a disaster. Not a word.
The cuts in Anglo-American amplify that one as well:
Although there is a ton more that I could write at this moment, we need to watch how the next week acts to really know. I can write a much more detailed report if it helps to amplify any situation so please let me know if that arises. The Pope would definitely be in my crosshairs today. Let’s pay the masses to believe in us again…..
Virtually every single thing I wrote in “Many a Slip between a Cup and a Lip” has been confirmed or accentuated to validate in only three days.
Even publicly available hedge funder Doug Kass mentioned on Twitter his hope of having a guest come on CNBC and telling the truth about how bad “this market sucks.”
This one really made me laugh.
Lifetime deal. I wonder when they’ll pay him $500 million to look cool folding tacos so we all get inspired.
Here’s a big one whose time has come. The whole design is wrong. Here’s Jim Rickards telling the world finally that the Fed models treat everyone like a robot. Can you say Fascist design Jim? Maybe he can fold a taco, too.
Thank you again. I needed exactly what you wrote for tomorrow.
With love and light,
you have an excellent and vivid style, much more fluent and rich than mine as it is your native language. Keep it please. Otherwise the discussion with the Saker is pivotal as it outlines our future discussions with humanity. The same holds true for Joachim in the positive direction.
Thank you very much for this update. I read about Anglo-American cutting most of its working force due to the commodity prices rout and as I and my readers cannot open the link you have forwarded I will publish this one:
Please do not put yourself under pressure – go with the flow. When the point in time comes for you to assess the next significant crash and a new breakthrough of the light, which is “us” as Jerry has confirmed in his latest publication, then you will be inspired to write the next financial report.
But I agree fully with you that now the barrel is bottomless and everything is falling through in the abyss. It is like a house of cards during a massive earthquake, only a fraction of a second away from total crashing. When it will happen, does not really matter. It is important that both you and I agree that the situation has never been so vulnerable and desolate for the fraudsters as in these days. This is our game and we should play it with gusto.
With love and light
What a great commodities article to include. Thank you.
I don’t feel any pressure, but I’m trying to not get to excited that everything is finally responding after four straight years of resisting everything I’ve said. The immediate creation is breathtaking although I expect it.
With love and light
I know I am also excited, but somehow the climax of the past when I thought we had arrived at our final destination is gone. This is a very good sign as one must let go of any expectations and the desired end will come.
With love and light
Thank you once again, George.
I am not judging Saker, he is in his own ignorant, unconscious unawakened part of soul (just an observation).
It can be frustrating. it is time for the many to “wake up”. As you say: “We are ascending”. I know this deep within my being/soul. It is real for me. I experience it. I have been on this journey once I hit the ground in this world. I am grateful to have the experience of being part of the awakening and healing of earth/Gaia.
For most the indoctrination they have incarnated into is so powerful that they are coma-like to truth. Deep emotional anesthesia, very powerful stuff. Generation to generation of indoctrination, not just through church, religion etc. though all the other energies that have propitiated this. Their personal experience, what they chose to journey and experience.
I do my small best to offer any information (when I feel the receptivity). I cannot be drained by those that are not ready. I have learned this time and time again.
Beings have come out of coma, naturally. I have witnessed this on a small scale.
I was so adamant at one point. Then I understood I live in my reality mind. It is for my highest good to seek out what works.
As you have shared, the separation is happening interdimensionally. My confidence leads me to understand it is all happening/unfolding as it is supposed to.
Love you dear George.
You are the best,
Jerry said it best! Wow, wow, wow!
I just read your posts and Saker’s response with Jerry’s and Joachim’s most excellent input.
I would say that my 85 year old mom and husband fall into the same category as Saker. But my 20 and 28 year old daughters are more in our belief area but not just yet all the way. In my professional life, there are only about 4 or 5 people with whom I sometimes meditate during lunch who are in our camp.
But this is the spilt or “separation of the wheat from the tares” that is occurring based solely on energetic signature developed by our belief systems.
Most of those in the “Saker” group are unable to depart from the heavy programming inflicted upon them during this life time. However, I’ve made great progress with my husband, but because my mother does not live with me and is in such an older age group, I’m unable to reach her.
Once I explained the Kali Yoga to my husband and then showed him how the end-time events as traditionally taught in western style Christianity, are extremely different from end-time prophecies in most other ancient texts, he began to open up to the fact that the Biblical text was corrupt. Since then he has also accepted other facts, such as the lack of any archeological evidence to support the existence of most old testament characters and the DNA evidence against the existence of a Jewish race. I had to show him how they hid meditation in plain sight in Matthew chapter 6 but their wolves in sheep clothing are trained to avoid teaching it as meditation. I also provided analysis to him showing how the removal of the Book of Enoch and its period of time known as “The Great Chastisement from Heaven” was necessary in order to complete the deception of a miracle salvation where Christians are “caught up in the air.” I explained to him that if one believed in a Great Chastisement from Heaven one would have to believe in the Ascension, as it is the full embodiment of Christ Consciousness the transforms the Light Warriors of the first and last hour that enables and brings about the Great Chastisement as we are the leaders of this “Chastisement” that is directed energetically.
But all of this has taken years of work and I have accepted the fact that most of those in the “Saker” camp must be spoken to very gently with facts so as not to shock them too much but with the hope that they will awaken while knowing that most won’t. But I try not to speak with them at all. It takes hours after speaking with them to recover to the same high level of internal vibrations. Although I love my mother deeply, when we discuss religion or spiritual matters Its very draining.
Thank you so much for all of your work. I enjoy reading your work more than anything else on the internet. I honestly feel that the ignition of the PAT supernova is about to ignite at any moment.
Peace, love and light to ALL,
thank you very much for this insightful comments with which I fully concur, especially that we waste a lot of energy with such futile discussions and have to lower substantially our frequencies which is ultimately detrimental to our ascension. That is why I am doing it only rarely, only when I want to gauge the level of awakening of humanity and thus the progress of our ascension.
With love and light
Saker’s Question about Whose in charge?
My brother just asked me what I thought about this article and “who did I think was really in charge.” I sent him the link to your site.
He is another person in my family who is coming along our path. In fact, last week he commented on the level of “ascension” I already appear to have obtained. He was surprised by my level of detachment to the whole “war” talk.
So I’m guessing that this is what Saker was referring too…..
“In closing, update to the American People: Soon you will have to make a choice.You will either live as a free man or die as a slave.
There are currently three (3) competing wings that are in mortal competition and threatening to use brute force against each other on the future destiny of the United States Republic.
Wing One is the current occupation force led by NAZI Paperclip reference the U.S. CIA, the U.S. NSA, former Vice pResident Richard Cheney, current U.S. Vice President Joseph Biden and, of course, the entire Bush-Clinton Crime Family Syndicate.
Wing Two is tied to current foreign-born alleged President Barack Obama who is being supported by elements of the Un-Constitutional Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as well as FEMA.
Wing Three is the patriotic pro-Constitution team led by year 2000 duly elected natural-born President Albert Gore Jr. as well as both the Michigan and Tennessee military Flag Officers.
Direct message to American citizens:
Be ready to side with the team that will protect your freedom, restore our Constitution, protect our Bill of Rights and put an end to this NAZI Paperclip occupation nightmare.
Peace, love and light to ALL,
Maybe, one can only guess, but I personally do not like this description and consider it wrong and confusing. At the end it does not matter how many fractions there are in the US deep government as they are all dark, just as the Russians do not make any distinction among terrorists in Syria or to paraphrase Lavrov : “If he looks like a dark cabal, thinks like a dark cabal, behaves like a dark cabal is a terrorist-cabal and has no chances to survive.”
With love and light
I waited till today to write and do not know why, I was laughing and in such awe of you last night upon reading that over the top article explaining who is really in charge. I stood back and said “whew’ myself and felt very sorry for the Saker. I am laughing as I write this because technically I feel sorry for anyone who steps into deep conversation with you!!! They have no idea who they encountered!!! And that article was again another of one of the loveliest things that I have had the Highest pleasure in reading. Perfect as usual chronological order, but just such perfect words that we as the PAT can enjoy just so many times over. We do not need acceptance for we have each other. Grand reading, thank you always.
In love and light,
Saker and Joachim
Your conversations with Saker and Joachim are some of the best summaries you have written. Although both men appear to be at different levels of evolution, you did a fantastic job of explaining the unexplainable to 3D mentality. Well done!
I was set to send off a congratulatory word to you regarding your most excellent and comprehensive article in response to the Saker, but Jerry beat me to it. I would have started out with the same “WOW,WOW,WOW” as he did, and as Jerry’s 11 point description covered everything else, now I’ve nothing left to say.
Just kidding…but what comes in for me now is taking a tangential direction and it concerns the twin flame scenario. I know it is not long now before the game is up for the Orion Matrix/PTW, but that, to me, begs the question as to how and when the meeting up of the 12 pairs of twin flames is to occur and how their role is to be played out.
Yes, I’m still experiencing a strong level of resonance with this idea [and have had several clearings and clarifications about past personal experiences which seemed only to be brought to mind due to this new awareness/concept]. And, though the response by the Elohim which Carla gave recently was a very beautiful and moving description of what the re-union of these souls would be like, it offered no word about whether their new contribution is to be carried out from an ascended state [as in New Lemuria] working multidimensionally, or involves actions which are necessarily carried out “on the ground”, so to speak.
Also, the time frame is a puzzle; as Carla told Kari she could expect to meet her twin flame in something like 3 months, which would suggest more “time” in 3D before even being ready to begin their new level of service. I know there are some things better left to simply work out as they will and that everything is subject to change based on events playing out Now, but if there is some clarification that is appropriate to share at this time it is appreciated.
With love and light,
thank you for your appreciation of the latest post. With regard to the twin flame topic, we unfortunately do not have more information than what the Elohim have told us. It is obvious that the time of the 12 twin flame pairs in the PAT to connect has arrived, but we have no idea when it will happen and how it will happen. The Elohim would never tell us this. It is up to the people to find out for themselves when the time is ripe. We have made them aware of this fact and now it is up to them to connect the dots. Because each one of you is an ascended master and does not need any external help.
With love and light
Hallo, Herr Dr. Stankov –
vielen Dank für die ausführlichen tollen Artikel!
Meine Meinung: Erst dann, wenn die “Papiergoldbesitzer” merken, daß sie verarscht worden sind und eine physische Auslieferung des Goldes nicht möglich ist, da es einfach nicht vorhanden ist, – erst dann wird das globale Finanzsystem wie ein Kartenhaus zusammenbrechen!
Ansonsten kann man zur Zeit einfach nur täglich die Gesamtlage beobachten und noch versuchen, so viele Leute wie möglich aufzuklären – was jedoch inzwischen sehr schwierig ist, da die Mehrheit sich im Konsumrausch und Weihnachtsfieber befindet.
Liebe Grüße auch an Carla,
der Crash des Goldmarktes wird mit größter Wahrscheinlichkeit der erste Funke sein, aber auch alle anderen ökonomischen Grundparameter zeigen nun auf einen baldigen Kollaps der Weltwirtschaft, die sich bereits in der größten Depression aller Zeiten befindet.