A PAT Discussion, November 21, 2018
The mind of God: Posted in Morality, Natural law, 2012
See Chinese translation of the discussion below
I am your loyal reader, thank you and Carla and all the members of PAT. My friends and I have got the clearest information from you. You are like a lighthouse to illuminate the way that we are going!
Considering some security factors, I can’t say too much. I can only assume that you know the existence of this man. He is going to hold a press conference. According to him, this will cause a world sensation.
My friend and I have been observing him for more than a year. We feel that there is light behind him to support him, and what he does is to expose the darkness, not just my nation, including at least 90% of countries are affected by my country in the world. At the same time, it will also awaken the people, the people of my nation, and the people of other countries in the world.
I want to ask you: What do you think about this man’s actions? Can he successfully expose the darkness and the cabal, can the people of my nation be awakened from it, and push more people around the world to wake up? Will it also promote the release of the new Astral Currency?
With love and light
thank you very much for contacting me for the first time and for your appreciation of our work and that of your Chinese compatriots who translate and publicize our articles in Chinese in your country.
I will check the videos you have sent me and I have forwarded them to Wendy, Mark and Jet who can assess much better this person and I hope they will give us their assessment soon. From a first cursory glance I do agree with him that there are huge problems in China with regard to the personal freedom of the people, but we encounter these problems in all other countries in more or less pronounced form. The solution though cannot be within the national confines, but through the ultimate elimination of the national state – of all national states – and the establishment of a new evolved transgalactic humanity beyond national limits and boundaries. This is what we are now creating with the new cities of light.
With love and light
I listened his disclosures for some time now. I personally quite like him. Mr. Guo Wen Guei is a billionaire and had background of working with those top profile officials in China for more than 20 years. I also believe that the nature of his former work was closely linked with Chinese espionage or a similar kind. Therefore, the majority of what he disclosed about Chinese top officials (the first or second man in power) is mostly credible, however there may be some artificial information to camouflage his colleagues. That is understandable. But he has close relationships with the western cabal as well. British formal Prime Minister Tony Blair using his private jet for a journey to Middle East was one example as he boasted himself.
What he disclosed was about how those high-profile Chinese officials transferred huge amount of money to West leading to poverty in China. I think that it is the Western cabal who demand money from China. But he seems not aware of the reason why the money is transferred to the West.
So I don’t know if he is being used or set-up. But what he is disclosing about China is astonishing and will shock Chinese people and have huge impact on China.
There are many YouTube videos of his disclosures, but all in Chinese.
With love and light
thank you so much for this important information on this man. I guessed correctly that this is a more complicated case than it seemed at first sight. But he is obviously doing his work on informing the Chinese people to the best of his knowledge and this is an important contribution. We cannot expect from him to have the same spiritual level of enlightenment we strive for.
With love and light
I am glad to be able to communicate with my dear George and Carla again after a week, and I do not know what light work you have done in Rome in the past week, which is of great interest to me.
Let me now turn to the contents of this letter from Lucy.
I had followed the situation of Mr. Guo more than a year. He is a fighter. There is no such type of fighters in China as they have room to survive under the severe oppression of the communist regime. With regard to the fact that the interests of the Chinese people have long been partitioned and plundered by the red aristocracy of the Communist Party, Mr. Guo has a great deal of evidence, which I think is credible. It is clear that this is very much in line with the development of China’s political history in the last 40 years, and that young people (those born after the 80s) may not have much experience with it.
George, I think you should remember that before the fall of the Iron Curtain and the collapse of the Soviet empire in 1989, the student democracy movement took place in China from February to June and the movement was finally suppressed by the Communist Party’s army in June (1989, Tiananmen Square protests). In terms of chronology, it happened earlier than the collapse of Eastern Europe and the Soviet empire and while the results were different, they were actually the same in nature as they all had a deadly impact on the global Communist system. The Chinese Communist Party’s use of the army to crackdown on protesters has caused great revulsion in the Western world and this atrocity has even been blamed around the world, which likely had a psychological impact on the changes that took place in Eastern Europe and Russia in the months that followed, so much, so that the communist rulers in Eastern Europe were afraid to use force during the mass demonstrations leading to the fall of the Berlin Wall. This accelerated the collapse of the Iron Curtain.
I watched the process of this national Democratic movement in China closely on television and, although I was not personally involved (because I was just in junior high school), I still remember vividly the details of the popular uprising and the names of the leaders of these student movements. This event had a positive impact on my thinking in this young age, which put me in the habit of thinking independently. I once imagined in my mind that if the fall of the Soviet empire would have taken place earlier than the “64 movement” in China, the course of history would certainly have been different and perhaps our country would have become a true democracy.
After the Communist Party survived the crisis of Tiananmen Square incident, Deng Xiaoping chose the route of continuing with the reforms and opening up, in fact, he took a line close to Western capitalism, and this model of reform was a copy of the western type of society. However, the lack of any change of the political system was the root cause for the interests of the nation to be abandoned and to be plundered by these red aristocrats, as the development of the capitalist economic model within the framework of such a totalitarian political system could only lead to a very few people acquiring huge national resources and astronomical wealth. As there is no oversight mechanism for the upper echelons of power in such a country, as Xi said, the fight against corruption is achieved through the “Party management of the party”. At the same time the party represents the people as the people give power to the party; therefore anyone who questions this power is essentially against the people and this country and is a traitor. This is China’s political logic, which is accepted by most Chinese.
That is why, many Chinese do not care much about politics, because people know that the leaders who appear in the news are a show, an illusion. The struggle for power and interests among politicians has nothing to do with their own daily needs, it is just a spectacle as the bloody performances in the Roman Colosseum.
I do not want to continue to discuss this subject in depth, because it is limited to the karmic dimension of the nation-state in the three-dimensional reality, and when the final inter-dimensional transformation arrives, people will face the very dark history of humanity far beyond this subject, which will span up tens of thousands of years, which is what these dark politicians must experience while making their choices on a very long evolutionary path in 3D earth.
Finally, I would like to say that, although Mr. Guo is very brave and exposes many of the truths of China, he, like many Chinese dissidents, believes that Western democracy is a panacea for saving China as a result of his own narrow, limited world view, and whether he can be protected by the light needs to be seen based on his future choices. As we have analyzed, what is considered truth in the three-dimensional reality is not the real and whole truth. If the people do not evolve internally, they will only repeat the political and karmic game of this three-dimensional reality.
With love and light
thank you so much for this comprehensive overview of the recent history of China which I remember very well, including the uprising in the summer of 1989 and the subsequent dramatic Tiananmen square events. The latter were widely publicized in the West as to weaken China and some critical experts believe that they were exaggerated. I am not so sure as I do not have first hand information. The revelations of this man should be interpreted upon this background and he definitely plays a role in the ascension scenario, even if he may have no idea about this role.
I do see the current problems of China which is still a monolithic society with the old red aristocracy/nomenclature firmly in power and amassing huge wealth, while most of the country is still poor, but so are many people in the west and their freedom is not bigger than that in China. From a personal point of view, the citizens in Eastern Europe, such as in Bulgaria enjoy even more freedom than Germans, Brits and French as the state and the government is weak there and the people are left in peace to do whatever they want, which on the other hand creates a lot of chaos, but it can also be a creative chaos, unless it is not suffocated by exuberant corruption, which is, by the way, equally omnipresent in the East and the West.
I personally believe that there is no solution within the current political and economic models in the East and the West and that is why the national states will have to crumble everywhere. The nations will though remain for a while as a cultural biotope. And this will happen quicker than many people believe, also in the new age movement.
Let us see what the HR have in store till the end of this year.
With love and light
I agree with you that Mr. Guo, no matter how he acts, is already playing a very important role in the future of China, perhaps affecting the timing of the eventual transformation. Personally, I think China has been playing the role of a procrastinator in the Ascension process since 2008, trading private interests with politicians of the US and around the world for the sake of its dream of power and preserving the interests of the red aristocracy itself, as Mr. Guo mentions that huge sums of money have been transferred to the west. However, these disclosures do not alter much China’s current international standing, but may become a trigger for Chinese revelations after the inter-dimensional transformation.
I have a friend who lives in Spain, who is Chinese and he tells me that Spain has been in anarchy for more than half a year. This has no impact on the people’s lives as usual, their lives are even more relaxed than when there was a functional government. I think that’s why Europe is the first place for the Ascension. At least now it’s hard for me to imagine what would happen to the Chinese people once they experience anarchy, because most Chinese rely on strong government to manage every aspect of their lives.
It is clear that China will be in prolonged throes when the final revelation arrives.
With love and light
I just read your communications about politics, I was in a Buddhist Temple for the last a few days. I would like to add my opinions on this topic. I was quite excited at first last year when I learned about him, and he promised some big moves of disclosure, but based on my observation, he is actually a follower of our present president, and he is no more than a pawn on the political chess board. It is just another show. So I stopped following him, and I don’t think he is capable of making any difference. A spy, nothing more.
I am not quite interested in politics, so I don’t know the reason or intention behind this. I doubt he could make Chinese awake, we are actually quite good at keeping one eye closed and one eye open. Too big to fail, I would say. Chinese are not stupid. So for now, the folks care more about living a good life, stabilization, and development. If there will be an evolution in politics, it will start from a new generation inside the party, not outside.
The problem is, in my opinion, to invoke an evolution in the mind, to pick up our own culture, to remember that the theory of man is an integral part of nature that rules us for thousands of years. It is in our DNA. And this is exactly the reason why I insist that the Universal Law should be learned in China the most. This will make us raise our heads and our dignity. This will make us awake. Then there is the evolution in other areas in the society, as it will become the internal demand of the mass.
In conclusion, the whole country is still healing, we are under cultural crisis instead of political crisis. People are sleeping by choice, we don’t need the “news” or “truth” we already know it well in the heart, for that I will suggest that we step aside of this big show and focus on raising the awareness of the classical Chinese culture and the Universal Law. In the end, the cultural revolution in the 60s and 70s has led us to this point.
With love and light,
I am just contemplating whether it is a good idea to publish our discussion on the Chinese website as your comments and contributions are very insightful and precious and should be of great interest to all enlightened and awakened Chinese people. On the other hand I know about the censorship in China and the danger of shutting down the website once again. Alternatively, I may consider publishing this discussion on my website, however, I am afraid that most of my readers know very little about China and will not be able to follow the discussion.
Tell me what you think?
With love and light
You are right. As far as I know, Chinese authorities were very nervous of him at least about one year ago when the party faced a big reshuffle. I even heard that if any WeChat group mentioned his name, the group would be forcefully dissolved. That is why I hardly talk of him in the group. I am not sure what is the current situation.
However, his popularity is declining in overseas Chinese circles, simply because his prediction of the fall of the second man in power Mr. Wang didn’t happen. But the key point is that the people in China know very well of government’s corruption and don’t care how much money are being transferred to overseas because they will not get the money anyway. Therefore, Mr. Guo’s perspective may no longer be attractive any more even though the corruption details he disclosed are beyond terrifying. People would treat them as a gossip. Gradually he will disappear from the scene, unless he alters his strategy which I haven’t seen any sign yet.
Therefore I don’t think it is the time to take him seriously.
With love and light
All the news, comments and discussions about Mr. Guo have been officially banned in China and some folk media have been punished for it last year. So if I post these discussions on my website it will certainly be blocked, and even if it is not banned, no one will be involved in these discussions. At the same time, overseas Chinese discussion on this topic on the Internet has been reduced to meaningless scolding of each other, including many of China’s officially hired demagogues on the internet who continue to carry out a variety of purposeful espionage-sabotage activities.
The information he revealed (intelligence) is largely a state secret that involves a large amount of insider flows of Chinese money overseas. Personally, I think a lot of the evidence is true, because the initial reaction of the Chinese officials to this was clearly a panic. Since he first appeared on Twitter in 2016 to disclose this corruption, the Chinese response to this case has been ambiguous, but they sent immediately a red wanted notice (through Interpol) against him to the international community, even tried to use the state secret agency to destroy him. But interestingly, I have observed that the western response to the whole thing, both in the mainstream and in alternative media, is an understatement and they did not delve into the matter, even Trump rarely mentioned it. This is extremely perverse in the light of the West’s consistent opposition to Chinese politics.
In fact, a slightly more politically minded Chinese know about him despite the internet Great Wall and surveillance cameras, and curious people can still learn about him by flipping through the proxy software. As Wendy said, the Chinese are well aware of the corruption of the government, and while they cannot comment on it, no one can dominate people’s thinking, nor does it mean that they will not make their own choices at critical moments. However, those who accept this political illusion must eventually be hit by the truth as a brick wall in order to awaken, like those who chose the Cabal party (0f the globalists and the neo-liberal socialists, officially designated as the Democratic party, note, George) in the US election.
Both the United States and China, as a superpower and a potential superpower under the old matrix model, behave and express thought patterns that are equally evil, whether through world policing or through money bribery, because their aim is simply to build the NWO that transcends the current political landscape dominated by numerous national states. Ultimately, they are bound to go bankrupt, there is no doubt about that, as it is not in line with the current energetic conditions.
I remember that in the period of 1985-1990, there was a brief opening period in China’s ideological circles, when people were eager to learn all the philosophical, artistic and literary works of the West and this cultural endeavour eventually reached its peak in 1989 and manifested as a political movement in this reality. This coincides exactly with the time of the first Harmonic Convergence of Cosmic Energy in the summer of 1987, with which the last most intensive and decisive period of the Planetary Ascension of Gaia and Humanity was triggered. Although this reform movement failed in China, it gave rise to the political upheaval in Eastern Europe and the collapse of the Iron Curtain in 1989, a link that is obvious and reflects the wonderful arrangement of human life from the Higher Realms. Personally, I think the upcoming ascension scenario is likely to be the opposite, where a local Ascension first in Europe (in Italy) will eventually pave the way for China’s transformation.
This is easy to foresee as all wet dreams of the Chinese elite are being built upon a Western-type dominated economic system, and all their efforts to catch up with the West are based on the old matrix model that is about to collapse, just as they decided after 1989 years to take the path of Western materialistic and economic doctrine. All their models of learning were brought to them from outside, and the Chinese leaders have never bothered to discover the essence of their own civilization and learn from their own historical heritage. Instead, they almost extinguished all the spiritual sparks of this nation during the 10 years of the Cultural Revolution disaster. So the only thing they can do is maintain the status quo and wait for a disaster to happen.
George, the aforementioned are my personal predictions about China’s future based on a brief overview of China’s modern history, which can provide some background information for your vision of the planetary ascension. In short, the people of China must rediscover their national character’s virtues, such as a tenacious will to face the upcoming revelations and accept the impact of the full truth about this reality, in order to resurrect redeemed and illuminated like a Phoenix from the ashes. I’m sure they can do that.
With love and light
Love you! Thank you very much for your timely reply!
Please forgive me for replying in Chinese because my English writing skills are poor. I am worried that I can not express myself accurately in English. I hesitated for a long time to write this letter to George because I wanted to ask Mark to hand it over to George, but since Mr. G. was a sensitive name that would expose our information to surveillance, I was worried about Mark’s safety.
Dear Mark, thank you for giving George a detailed account of the “64 events” in 1989. I was born after the 80s. I saw official reports of the incident as a child and it was described as if some naive young people were incited by Western forces and the heroic PLA was attacked by an evil mob, while defending the country. Later, I basically couldn’t see this kind of information until last year I saw it on a foreign website. When I read George’s article on the fall of the Iron Curtain, I was also wondering what would have happened to our country if the Chinese students were successful in 1989. Why do both things happen in the year of 1989 at the same time? Why were there two completely different results? Of course, I also agree with you that mankind must face the dark side of history while advancing along the road of evolution.
Dear Wendy, thank you for your reply. I have had the same suspicion about MR. G’s close relationship with the Western cabal, no matter whether he would have been exploited or had other reasons. Until now, I do not have an answer.
Dear Yet, thank you for your information. Your point of view is the same as many people who think that he is a follower of the current leader, so he has been disappointed with him now.
In addition, you mention that it is important to evoke the evolution of people’s minds, to learn our own culture and to understand that we are ONE with All-that-Is. Here, I have a question: China has a lot of excellent traditional culture, such as “Moral Sutra”, “Prajna-paramita-hrdaya-sutra”
With regard to MR. G., I would like to add a few points to yours here:
1. He was not a follower of the current leader and his failure to expose No.1 was based on strategic considerations, and second, he had hoped that No.1 could change, but now he should have given up the hope altogether. (George has also written an open letter to Mr. Xi and I believe MR. G has the same hope.)
2. He had pointed out that Western democracies were not perfect and there were many problems and that China’s future should take a path of its own, neither socialism nor capitalism, but China’s Zhengdao doctrine (??). After the overthrow of the current order, the future destiny of China should be handed over to the people. Mark also said that when the rulers fall, society will not be messed up and we simply do not have to worry about what will happen without the government, the people have their own ability to organize themselves. But it could take about 100 years for the Chinese to evolve [I must clarify that I did not say this. note Mark.]. (I personally think this is partly related to the 4D earth scenario that George revealed for the final ascension scenario.)
3. He pointed out that the currency controlled by the current rulers must disappear and that communism would leave China.
4. He also referred to the power of religious beliefs being returned to the people. I used to disagree with this as George said, nation-states and religions must eventually disappear. But then I observed that his religious beliefs did not refer to official religion but to faith and that in his view all religions came from the same source, and that there are divine forces in the world that guide us.
5. He mentioned more than once that change needs to begin within inside and the heart.
Dear George, Carla in a letter to Mark, “the continent known as Africa and Asia is not included in the current evolutionary leap, because their path to enlightenment is different and their descendants come from other root races.“[This sentence is not in Carla’s letter to me, but in a long article about the three cities of light. Note, Mark] Mark, I don’t know if you still remember that I once asked you this same question under another name.
China has a large population and accounts for most of the population of the Asian continent [Only 1/3. note, Mark.], but people sleep deep, very deep! I always think about what will happen to our country. The light of your truth has entered the land of China, but it is far from enough and we need more people to realize your truth! Need more people to wake up!
The appearance of Mr. G and what is currently being staged makes me think about whether the higher field has arranged for him to accelerate the progress, which is intertwined with the work that you and the PAT are currently doing. But he also mentioned the need to eliminate the present currency, which reminds me of the introduction of the new astral currency. That’s why I’m writing to you.
Of course, through your relevant message, I have clear understanding that the only way to solve all the problems that exist in human beings today is the ascension!
Thank you all, I love you!
Thank you for forwarding this topic which is actually very critical to the future ascension of the Earth and mankind as China involves more than 1/5 of the global population (of 6 billion). I am not worried that our discussions will be monitored and if it does happen perhaps the monitors would appreciate our discussions, which are likely to be very instructive to them, as it is also relevant to their vital interests in the future, whether they accept it or not.
I’m not sure if George will use Google translation software to read your reply, if there is a barrier, I will translate your reply to help him read it.
I am fully aware of the position of Mr. Guo as you have listed it, because I have followed his news last year. He himself is a victim of China’s existing system and his companies and industries in China have been officially seized, which is the cause of his Twitter disclosure. We know that, so far, Chinese officials have not issued any legally based statements on his case other than the red wanted notice.
All the discussions about his case inevitably involve the recent history of our country, which is the equivalent of the life of a 60-year-old person who is entangled in the karma of this country throughout his life. So the details of this individual destiny are not important, what is important is that it reflects the aggregated fate and collective personality of China and of its people as moulded by history, but it also affects the choices the Chinese will make in the face of future enlightenment.
We have changed the timelines of China, as you already read in the article including my correspondence with George and Carla. By editing a Chinese website on the new Theory and Gnosis of the Universal Law, we have gifted the Chinese people with the most precious tool of awakening and enlightenment and now it is up to our compatriots to accept it or not. I am glad that you joined this discussion and contributed to the dissemination of this information coming from the light.
With love and light
please translate Lucy’s response in English as I am considering publishing our discussion under the title “China’s Bumpy Road to Illumination”. This Chinese billionaire is not important at all, but is only a catalyst for our discussion on the much bigger change that is awaiting China and the rest of the world with our ascension and the appearance of the cities of light, first in Italy, of which we are the architects. Our discussion actually underlines the necessity of this scenario and the future development of mankind and is very instructive.
I now remember that Guo Wengui (this is the official spelling of his name which I know and that is why I first missed the point who he was) was also entangled with Steve Bannon, the personal, and unfortunate, adviser of Trump and that he is also a member of Mar-a-Lago golf club belonging to Trump, which is also his private residence where he even invited the Chinese president during his first visit to the USA. This guy is also connected to the CIA and when China asked the USA for his extradition, this was prevented by the secret services. Hence he is definitely not an angel and not even a whistler-blower, rather a self-styled dissident, the same role which most criminal Russian oligarchs assumed when they robbed the national wealth of Russia and emigrated to London and other Western capitals where their stolen money are well protected by the western banksters cabal.
But this kind of enlightened discussion is very important in order to separate the wheat from the chaff and to show that there is no solution through deliberate and manipulated revelations within the old matrix, but only a complete overhaul of it through unvarnished revelations of the hidden truth of who we really are – immortal multidimensional beings and creator gods – and this is precisely what we are doing with this discussion.
By the way, we abolished the old human paradigm on November 12th and 13th in a massive download of source energies during our visit to Rome and installed the new paradigm of unity consciousness and enlightenment. This affects only the human population – the mind and the psyche – and is very powerful. The results will be seen very soon and we already observe an acceleration of the collapse of the old matrix at the political and economic level. We have in the meantime expanded the new paradigm of unity thinking to the entire Italy and are now cleansing the fallout of negative energies that were released and swirl around in the astral atmosphere of ascending Gaia. It may take some more time to finish the job and the upcoming full moon portal on 11.22.11 promises to be very big and transformative as I am having a cc-wave with an excruciating headache now for 48 hours in a row in preparation for the opening of this portal.
I think that with the publication of this discussion on my website we shall heave China as a nation to a much higher timeline and that is why this discussion is of such imminent importance and I thank you all for your valuable contributions.
With love and light
I read with an eager understanding the recent interactive discourse concerning the spiritual enlightenment underway in China in addition to the revelation of Guo Wen Guei and his attempt to shed a spotlight on the inner workings of the red aristocracy that Mark so eloquently presents. Wow ! I cannot help but think that this proves beyond a reasonable doubt that regardless of the 3D political institutions which are manifest across the political spectrum, one verifiable fact emerges. That common theme is the inherent and institutionalized avarice which prevails in the hearts and minds of the elite while operating behind the scenes of the Nation-state paradigm. The nation -state defines the very essence of corruption as Georgi has pointed out on more than one occasion. It operates as a Mafia-like abomination promulgating its concerns for the masses while serving the elite maestros operating behind the ‘veil of deceit’. The fact that the CCP elite factions stem from the descendants of the original principals of the Communist Party attests to the fact that it does not matter whether a revolution originates from the right or left with platitudes of serving the people. Eventually, the human frailty of greed, and assumed importance marginalizes all premises of serving the nation and its people.
- In truth, China presents a most interesting account. I have often wondered why a nation so steeped in its antiquity of wisdom and philosophy of great spiritual foundations found it necessary to adhere to the writings of western revolutionaries in the likes of Marx and Engels. True, the western partition and economic domination of China in the 19th Century no doubt triggered a migration to communist philosophy and given its totality of control served as an expedient rival in the civil war that soon followed.
- Currently, Xi Jinping has announced that China’s course for the future encompasses ” Socialism with Chinese Characteristics. “, a somewhat more gentle idiom for the world to consider while more stringent controls are being implemented in controlling 25% of the world’s population.
The Chinese leadership now administer to a state that has adopted the western model of neo-liberal exploitative capitalism which in essence is State Capitalism. This is an ideal setup for the elite of China’s red aristocracy to plunder and operate the scam to their advantage while peddling to the masses and the world that China is emerging as the future role model in serving humanity. It is obvious that China under Xi Jinping has chosen the path of a ” Super Nation-State” and all that entails in its rival stance against American hegemony. This chosen path will be its undoing and is testament to the indisputable spiritual vacuum now prevalent across the world.
In conclusion, China has a 6000 year old history with a heritage of rich and diverse spiritual and cultural foundation. This is China’s salvation when the nation-sate collapses in the coming ascension and the The New Universal Law of Nature is embraced by all of humanity on the path to Unity Consciousness and Enlightenment for the human condition.
With love and light,
P.S My warm regards to Lucy